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What Information is required for Immobilizer Procedures?

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	''Many newer cars including all of the Golf/Jetta (1K) Models use Immobilizer 4. There are different varieties of Immobilizer 4 Implementations, some of them don't show a 14-digit Immo-ID anywhere, but rather a "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. This Challenge changes every Time Terminal 15 (Ignition) is cycled.''		''Many newer cars including all of the Golf/Jetta (1K) Models use Immobilizer 4. There are different varieties of Immobilizer 4 Implementations, some of them don't show a 14-digit Immo-ID anywhere, but rather a "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. This Challenge changes every Time Terminal 15 (Ignition) is cycled.''

	''As a general rule, VW models using Immo 4A (with Adaptation) may have Serial Numbers that contain '''VWZ''' (for Example '''VWZ'''7Z0G7051888). VW models using '''VWX''' (for Example '''VWX'''7Z0G7051888) "or ones without a Serial Number shown at all, do not use Adaptation and will have the revolving "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. Those systems using a Challenge Value are not considered supported at this time.''		''As a general rule, VW models using Immo 4A (with Adaptation) may have Serial Numbers that contain '''VWZ''' (for Example '''VWZ'''7Z0G7051888). VW models using '''VWX''' (for Example '''VWX'''7Z0G7051888) "or ones without a Serial Number shown at all, do not use Adaptation and will have the revolving "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. Those systems using a Challenge Value are not considered supported at this time. This means with challenge systems, VCDS cannot perform ANY of the procedures listed below:''

	* [[Immobilizer IV Key Matching\|Key Matching]]		* [[Immobilizer IV Key Matching\|Key Matching]]
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	* [[Immobilizer IV Immobilizer Swapping (Instrument Cluster)\|Immobilizer Control Module Swapping ''(integrated in Instrument Cluster)'']]		* [[Immobilizer IV Immobilizer Swapping (Instrument Cluster)\|Immobilizer Control Module Swapping ''(integrated in Instrument Cluster)'']]
	* <font color=gray>Immobilizer IV Immobilizer Swapping (Kessy)\|Immobilizer Control Module Swapping ''(integrated in Kessy)''</font>		* <font color=gray>Immobilizer IV Immobilizer Swapping (Kessy)\|Immobilizer Control Module Swapping ''(integrated in Kessy)''</font>


	=== Immobilizer Generation 5 ===		=== Immobilizer Generation 5 ===

Dana at 21:46, 24 April 2013

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	''Many 2000-2001 Model Year Vehicles sold in the North American Region (NAR) have Immobilizer 2 and there are other Rest of World (RoW) Vehicles with Immobilizer 2 which started earlier than that around Model Year 1998. To identify an Immobilizer 2 Vehicle, use VCDS to Select the Instrument Cluster (or Address ''25 - Immobilizer'' in Vehicles with a separate Immobilizer Control Module) and look in the Extra Field. You should see a 14 digit Immobilizer ID Number such as '''Immo-ID VWZ7Z0W0648696'''. '''There should NOT be a 17 digit VIN Number in the Extra Fields.''' If in doubt, check the Factory Repair Manual for your specific vehicle.''		''Many 2000-2001 Model Year Vehicles sold in the North American Region (NAR) have Immobilizer 2 and there are other Rest of World (RoW) Vehicles with Immobilizer 2 which started earlier than that around Model Year 1998. To identify an Immobilizer 2 Vehicle, use VCDS to Select the Instrument Cluster (or Address ''25 - Immobilizer'' in Vehicles with a separate Immobilizer Control Module) and look in the Extra Field. You should see a 14 digit Immobilizer ID Number such as '''Immo-ID VWZ7Z0W0648696'''. '''There should NOT be a 17 digit VIN Number in the Extra Fields.''' If in doubt, check the Factory Repair Manual for your specific vehicle.''

	''The North American Region (NAR) market VW Cabrio used Immo 2 ~~but two generations were used and that split pertains to vehicles manufactured~~ after 05/1999. Early production NAR Cabrios with 25- Immobilizer part numbers beginning with'' 6H0 ''are Immo 2/Gen 2. Later production systems can be identified by the'' 6X0 ''serial number which is Immo 2/Gen 3.''		''The North American Region (NAR) market VW Cabrio used two different generations of Immo 2, depending on whether the vehicle was built before or after 05/1999. Early production NAR Cabrios with 25- Immobilizer part numbers beginning with'' 6H0 ''are Immo 2/Gen 2. Later production systems can be identified by the'' 6X0 ''serial number which is Immo 2/Gen 3.''

	* [[Immobilizer II Key Matching (Cluster)\|Key Matching ''(through Instrument Cluster)'']]		* [[Immobilizer II Key Matching (Cluster)\|Key Matching ''(through Instrument Cluster)'']]

Dana at 21:27, 24 April 2013

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	''Many 2000-2001 Model Year Vehicles sold in the North American Region (NAR) have Immobilizer 2 and there are other Rest of World (RoW) Vehicles with Immobilizer 2 which started earlier than that around Model Year 1998. To identify an Immobilizer 2 Vehicle, use VCDS to Select the Instrument Cluster (or Address ''25 - Immobilizer'' in Vehicles with a separate Immobilizer Control Module) and look in the Extra Field. You should see a 14 digit Immobilizer ID Number such as '''Immo-ID VWZ7Z0W0648696'''. '''There should NOT be a 17 digit VIN Number in the Extra Fields.''' If in doubt, check the Factory Repair Manual for your specific vehicle.''		''Many 2000-2001 Model Year Vehicles sold in the North American Region (NAR) have Immobilizer 2 and there are other Rest of World (RoW) Vehicles with Immobilizer 2 which started earlier than that around Model Year 1998. To identify an Immobilizer 2 Vehicle, use VCDS to Select the Instrument Cluster (or Address ''25 - Immobilizer'' in Vehicles with a separate Immobilizer Control Module) and look in the Extra Field. You should see a 14 digit Immobilizer ID Number such as '''Immo-ID VWZ7Z0W0648696'''. '''There should NOT be a 17 digit VIN Number in the Extra Fields.''' If in doubt, check the Factory Repair Manual for your specific vehicle.''

			''The North American Region (NAR) market VW Cabrio used Immo 2 but two generations were used and that split pertains to vehicles manufactured after 05/1999. Early production NAR Cabrios with 25- Immobilizer part numbers beginning with'' 6H0 ''are Immo 2/Gen 2. Later production systems can be identified by the'' 6X0 ''serial number which is Immo 2/Gen 3.''

	* [[Immobilizer II Key Matching (Cluster)\|Key Matching ''(through Instrument Cluster)'']]		* [[Immobilizer II Key Matching (Cluster)\|Key Matching ''(through Instrument Cluster)'']]

Andy at 15:58, 10 January 2013

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	''Many newer cars including all of the Golf/Jetta (1K) Models use Immobilizer 4. There are different varieties of Immobilizer 4 Implementations, some of them don't show a 14-digit Immo-ID anywhere, but rather a "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. This Challenge changes every Time Terminal 15 (Ignition) is cycled.''		''Many newer cars including all of the Golf/Jetta (1K) Models use Immobilizer 4. There are different varieties of Immobilizer 4 Implementations, some of them don't show a 14-digit Immo-ID anywhere, but rather a "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. This Challenge changes every Time Terminal 15 (Ignition) is cycled.''

	''As a general rule, VW models using Immo 4A (with Adaptation) may have Serial Numbers that contain '''VWZ''' (for Example '''VWZ'''7Z0G7051888). VW models using '''VWX''' (for Example '''VWX'''7Z0G7051888) "or ones without a Serial Number shown at all, do not use Adaptation and will have the revolving "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. Those systems using a Challenge Value are not considered supported at this time~~. Please email Ross-Tech directly for assistance with Immobilizer 4 Vehicles and Procedures~~.''		''As a general rule, VW models using Immo 4A (with Adaptation) may have Serial Numbers that contain '''VWZ''' (for Example '''VWZ'''7Z0G7051888). VW models using '''VWX''' (for Example '''VWX'''7Z0G7051888) "or ones without a Serial Number shown at all, do not use Adaptation and will have the revolving "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. Those systems using a Challenge Value are not considered supported at this time.''

	* [[Immobilizer IV Key Matching\|Key Matching]]		* [[Immobilizer IV Key Matching\|Key Matching]]
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	=== Immobilizer Generation 5 ===		=== Immobilizer Generation 5 ===

	''~~Please email~~ Ross-Tech ~~directly for assistance with~~ Immobilizer 5 ~~Vehicles and Procedures~~.''		''Ross-Tech does not support Immobilizer 5 procedures at this time.''

	* Key Matching
	* Engine Control Unit (ECU) Swapping
	* Immobilizer Control Module Swapping

Andy at 15:07, 11 December 2012

2012-12-11T15:07:01Z

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	''Many newer cars including all of the Golf/Jetta (1K) Models use Immobilizer 4. There are different varieties of Immobilizer 4 Implementations, some of them don't show a 14-digit Immo-ID anywhere, but rather a "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. This Challenge changes every Time Terminal 15 (Ignition) is cycled.''		''Many newer cars including all of the Golf/Jetta (1K) Models use Immobilizer 4. There are different varieties of Immobilizer 4 Implementations, some of them don't show a 14-digit Immo-ID anywhere, but rather a "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. This Challenge changes every Time Terminal 15 (Ignition) is cycled.''

	''As a general rule on VW models using Immo 4A (with Adaptation) may have Serial Numbers that ~~contains~~ '''VWZ''' (for Example '''VWZ'''7Z0G7051888). VW models using '''VWX''' (for Example '''VWX'''7Z0G7051888) do not use Adaptation and will have the revolving "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. Those systems using Challenge ID are not considered supported at this time. Please email Ross-Tech directly for assistance with Immobilizer 4 Vehicles and Procedures.''		''As a general rule, VW models using Immo 4A (with Adaptation) may have Serial Numbers that contain '''VWZ''' (for Example '''VWZ'''7Z0G7051888). VW models using '''VWX''' (for Example '''VWX'''7Z0G7051888) "or ones without a Serial Number shown at all, do not use Adaptation and will have the revolving "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. Those systems using a Challenge Value are not considered supported at this time. Please email Ross-Tech directly for assistance with Immobilizer 4 Vehicles and Procedures.''

	* [[Immobilizer IV Key Matching\|Key Matching]]		* [[Immobilizer IV Key Matching\|Key Matching]]

Andy: /* What Information is required for Immobilizer Procedures? */

2012-07-12T18:47:56Z

What Information is required for Immobilizer Procedures?

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	! Key Matching (New)		! Key Matching (New)
	\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| N/A		\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car PIN needed \|\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car PIN needed \|\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car PIN needed \|\| N/A
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	! Key Matching (Used)		! Key Matching (Used)
	\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| style="background:red" \| Not Supported \|\| style="background:red" \| Not Supported \|\| style="background:red" \| Not Supported		\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car PIN needed \|\| style="background:red" \| Not Supported \|\| style="background:red" \| Not Supported \|\| style="background:red" \| Not Supported
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	! ECU Swapping (New)		! ECU Swapping (New)
	\| style="background:limegreen" \| No ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| N/A		\| style="background:limegreen" \| No PIN needed \|\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car PIN needed \|\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car PIN needed \|\| N/A
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	! ECU Swapping (Used)		! ECU Swapping (Used)
	\| style="background:limegreen" \| No ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| style="background:yellow" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed<br>'''and'''<br>Used ECU ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| style="background:yellow" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed<br>'''and'''<br>Used ECU ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| N/A		\| style="background:limegreen" \| No PIN needed \|\| style="background:yellow" \| Original/Car PIN needed<br>'''and'''<br>Used ECU PIN needed \|\| style="background:yellow" \| Original/Car PIN needed<br>'''and'''<br>Used ECU PIN needed \|\| N/A
	\|-		\|-
	! Cluster Swapping (New)		! Cluster Swapping (New)
	\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| style="background:~~orange~~" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| style="background:~~orange~~" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| N/A		\| style="background:orange" \| Original/Car PIN needed \|\| style="background:magenta" \| Original/Car PIN needed<br>'''and'''<br>Replacment Cluster PIN needed \|\| style="background:magenta" \| Original/Car PIN needed <br>'''and'''<br>Replacement Cluster PIN needed\|\| N/A
	\|-		\|-
	! Cluster Swapping (Used)		! Cluster Swapping (Used)
	\| style="background:orange" \| Used Cluster ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| style="background:magenta" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed<br>'''and'''<br>~~Used~~ Cluster ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| style="background:magenta" \| Original/Car ~~SKC~~ needed<br>'''and'''<br>~~Used~~ Cluster ~~SKC~~ needed \|\| N/A		\| style="background:orange" \| Used Cluster PIN needed \|\| style="background:magenta" \| Original/Car PIN needed<br>'''and'''<br>Replacement Cluster PIN needed \|\| style="background:magenta" \| Original/Car PIN needed<br>'''and'''<br>Replacement Cluster PIN needed \|\| N/A
	\|}		\|}

Dana at 14:30, 14 May 2012

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	For the US Market the [http://www.nastf.org National Automotive Service Task Force (NASTF)] has been working with automakers including VW to hopefully provide some form of access to Immobilizer information using the [http://www.nastf.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3532 Secure Data Release Model (SDRM)].		For the US Market the [http://www.nastf.org National Automotive Service Task Force (NASTF)] has been working with automakers including VW to hopefully provide some form of access to Immobilizer information using the [http://www.nastf.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3532 Secure Data Release Model (SDRM)].

			erWin offers some Immobilizer and Pass-Thru solutions which are mentioned under the notes section of our [[Official Factory Repair Information]] page.

	The following Chart shows what Information is needed to perform each Procedure. The Requirements and Steps differ depending on whether the Component you are installing is brand new, or if it has been previously matched to a Vehicle. ''Please understand that this is a general Chart and there may be exceptions!''		The following Chart shows what Information is needed to perform each Procedure. The Requirements and Steps differ depending on whether the Component you are installing is brand new, or if it has been previously matched to a Vehicle. ''Please understand that this is a general Chart and there may be exceptions!''

Andy: /* What Information is required for Immobilizer Procedures? */

2011-07-28T17:02:33Z

What Information is required for Immobilizer Procedures?

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	== What Information is required for Immobilizer Procedures? ==		== What Information is required for Immobilizer Procedures? ==

	VCDS can match Keys to your Car, but only if you have the specific PIN Code for your particular Car. Prior to 2002, some vehicles were [http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/images/key_tags.jpg delivered with a scratch-off Panel on a Plastic Tag]] that contained the 4 digit PIN Code, some Manufactures like Seat and Skoda used this methods up until 2008. Prior to April of 2005 (US only), it was possible for Vehicle Owners to go to their Dealer with Proof of Ownership and the VIN and Immo-ID (the latter can be read with VCDS). The Dealership would punch that Information into an Online System that would give them the PIN. At that point they were able to give it to you. Unfortunately VW/Audi has eliminated that System and now the dealer never sees the PIN. The GeKo System sends it directly to the Dealers' Scan Tool, which sends it to the Car and does the Key Matching .- without ever showing the PIN to anyone.''		VCDS can match Keys to your Car, but only if you have the specific PIN Code for your particular Car. Prior to 2002, some vehicles were [http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/images/key_tags.jpg delivered with a scratch-off Panel on a Plastic Tag]] that contained the 4 digit PIN Code, some Manufactures like Seat and Skoda used this methods up until 2008. Prior to April of 2005 (US only), it was possible for Vehicle Owners to go to their Dealer with Proof of Ownership and the VIN and Immo-ID (the latter can be read with VCDS). The Dealership would punch that Information into an Online System that would give them the PIN. At that point they were able to give it to you. Unfortunately VW/Audi has eliminated that System and now the dealer never sees the PIN. The GeKo System sends it directly to the Dealers' Scan Tool, which sends it to the Car and does the Key Matching - without ever showing the PIN to anyone.''

	There are Locksmith Supply Companies that sell Products that purport to be able to extract PIN Codes, which could then be used by VCDS. Just as they sell Lockpicking Tools to legal Users, those Tools could also be used for Criminal Purposes and as a Result, we do not sell or recommend them.		There are Locksmith Supply Companies that sell Products that purport to be able to extract PIN Codes, which could then be used by VCDS. Just as they sell Lockpicking Tools to legal Users, those Tools could also be used for Criminal Purposes and as a Result, we do not sell or recommend them.
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	\| style="background:orange" \| Used Cluster SKC needed \|\| style="background:magenta" \| Original/Car SKC needed<br>'''and'''<br>Used Cluster SKC needed \|\| style="background:magenta" \| Original/Car SKC needed<br>'''and'''<br>Used Cluster SKC needed \|\| N/A		\| style="background:orange" \| Used Cluster SKC needed \|\| style="background:magenta" \| Original/Car SKC needed<br>'''and'''<br>Used Cluster SKC needed \|\| style="background:magenta" \| Original/Car SKC needed<br>'''and'''<br>Used Cluster SKC needed \|\| N/A
	\|}		\|}



	== How does the 7 digit PIN/SKC work? ==		== How does the 7 digit PIN/SKC work? ==

Dana at 16:38, 26 July 2011

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	=== Immobilizer Generation 4 ===		=== Immobilizer Generation 4 ===

	''Many newer cars including all of the Golf/Jetta (1K) Models use Immobilizer 4. There are different varieties of Immobilizer 4 Implementations, some of them don't show a 14-digit Immo-ID anywhere, but rather a "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. This Challenge changes every Time Terminal 15 (Ignition) is cycled. Please email Ross-Tech directly for assistance with Immobilizer 4 Vehicles and Procedures.''		''Many newer cars including all of the Golf/Jetta (1K) Models use Immobilizer 4. There are different varieties of Immobilizer 4 Implementations, some of them don't show a 14-digit Immo-ID anywhere, but rather a "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. This Challenge changes every Time Terminal 15 (Ignition) is cycled.''

			''As a general rule on VW models using Immo 4A (with Adaptation) may have Serial Numbers that contains '''VWZ''' (for Example '''VWZ'''7Z0G7051888). VW models using '''VWX''' (for Example '''VWX'''7Z0G7051888) do not use Adaptation and will have the revolving "Challenge" Value in Advanced ID. Those systems using Challenge ID are not considered supported at this time. Please email Ross-Tech directly for assistance with Immobilizer 4 Vehicles and Procedures.''

	* [[Immobilizer IV Key Matching\|Key Matching]]		* [[Immobilizer IV Key Matching\|Key Matching]]