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A large majority of modern VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda vehicles require the configuration of replacement batteries.  The actual diagnostic steps vary depending on the actual vehicle configuration.
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A large majority of modern VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda vehicles require the configuration of replacement batteries.  The diagnostic steps vary depending on the actual vehicle configuration.
  
 
'''<u>Prerequisites:</u>'''<br>
 
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Your new Battery should now be coded and the Battery Control Module should be aware of the new Battery.<br>
 
Your new Battery should now be coded and the Battery Control Module should be aware of the new Battery.<br>
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=== Special Notes ===
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* Some vehicles like Audi R8 along with some rest-of-world models with Stop-Start, can have a 61 that is really a virtual module in the 19-CAN Gateway. In these cases, the new battery information is entered in 61-Battery Regulation then Adaptation Channel 004.
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== 19-CAN Gateway using CAN ==
 
== 19-CAN Gateway using CAN ==
This procedure applies to battery replacement in vehicles using a battery management control module that is a slave/subsystem of the gateway.
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This procedure applies to battery replacement in vehicles using a battery management control module that is a slave/subsystem of the CAN Gateway.
 
  Address '''19: CAN Gateway (J533)'''      Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
 
  Address '''19: CAN Gateway (J533)'''      Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
 
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 Q    HW: 8T0 907 468 L
 
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 Q    HW: 8T0 907 468 L
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   Component: '''J367-BDM'''  H04 0150  
 
   Component: '''J367-BDM'''  H04 0150  
 
=== Long Adaptation ===
 
=== Long Adaptation ===
Installation of a new battery requires the use of the [http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/adaptation_screen.html#long [Long Adaptation-0A]] function under 19-CAN-Gateway control module. Follow the onscreen instructions to enter the Part Number, Vendor, and Serial Number all as one long new value.<br>
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Installation of a new battery requires the use of the [http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/adaptation_screen.html#long [Long Adaptation-0A]] function under 19-CAN-Gateway control module. Follow the on-screen instructions to enter the Part Number, Vendor, and Serial Number all as one long new value.<br>
 
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'''[Select]'''<br>
 
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=== Special Notes ===
 
=== Special Notes ===
* Measuring Block groups 008, 019 and 020 should show Battery information.
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* Measuring Block groups 017, 018, 019 and 020 should show Battery information.
 
* Registered users encountering difficulty can contact us via [mailto:Support@Ross-Tech.com email] -or- join and post in [http://forums.ross-tech.com our forum]. Please include the Auto-Scan, Saved Adaptation Channel 004 Log  prior to modifications, the part number, serial number and vendor code located on the original battery and the details located on the brand new battery in addition to the error message details.
 
* Registered users encountering difficulty can contact us via [mailto:Support@Ross-Tech.com email] -or- join and post in [http://forums.ross-tech.com our forum]. Please include the Auto-Scan, Saved Adaptation Channel 004 Log  prior to modifications, the part number, serial number and vendor code located on the original battery and the details located on the brand new battery in addition to the error message details.
 
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== 19-CAN Gateway using (UDS/ODX) ==
 
== 19-CAN Gateway using (UDS/ODX) ==
This procedure applies to battery replacement in vehicles using a battery management control module that is a slave/subsystem of the gateway.
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This procedure applies to battery replacement in vehicles using a battery management control module that is a slave/subsystem of the CAN Gateway.
 
  Address 19: '''CAN Gateway (J533)'''      Labels: None
 
  Address 19: '''CAN Gateway (J533)'''      Labels: None
 
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 468 E    HW: 4G0 907 468 A
 
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 468 E    HW: 4G0 907 468 A
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'''[Select]'''<br>
 
'''[Select]'''<br>
 
'''[19 - CAN-Gateway]'''<br>
 
'''[19 - CAN-Gateway]'''<br>
'''[Long Adaptation-0A]'''<br>
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'''[Adaptation - 10]'''<br>
* '''Battery adaptation - Size'''
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* '''Battery adaptation - Size (this may be something like IDE03256-MAS04490 Battery adaptation - Size)'''
 
** Select the battery Ah rating from the drop-down menu followed by '''[Do It!]''' and confirm '''[Yes]'''
 
** Select the battery Ah rating from the drop-down menu followed by '''[Do It!]''' and confirm '''[Yes]'''
* '''Battery adaptation - Manufacturer'''
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* '''Battery adaptation - Manufacturer (this may be something like IDE03256-MAS03159 Battery adaptation - Manufacturer)'''
 
** Select the battery manufacturer from the drop-down menu followed by '''[Do It!]''' and confirm '''[Yes]'''
 
** Select the battery manufacturer from the drop-down menu followed by '''[Do It!]''' and confirm '''[Yes]'''
* '''Battery adaptation - Serial number'''
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* '''Battery adaptation - Serial number (this may be something like IDE03256-IDE00010 Battery adaptation - Serial number)'''
 
** Type the serial number code from the replacement battery followed by '''[Do It!]''' and confirm '''[Yes]'''
 
** Type the serial number code from the replacement battery followed by '''[Do It!]''' and confirm '''[Yes]'''
 
Providing the value was accepted by the controller the new battery coding is complete.<br>
 
Providing the value was accepted by the controller the new battery coding is complete.<br>
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJAScg6JrYI
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJAScg6JrYI
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== Notes ==
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* Users encountering difficulty with the data shown on the battery sticker may want to:
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** Consider scanning the QR code with a smart phone app.<br>
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** Refer to this [http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/581232-B8-A4-Battery-Replacement-Coding B8 A4 Battery Replacement - Coding] thread which discusses labels in some detail.
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** We have seen some cases where (contrary to established norms) some Varta batteries have VAO (letter O) instead of VA0 (number 0). If you encounter a problem with Coding one of these, please try substituting the letter for the number or vice versa.
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** Based on feedback MLB based CAN Gateway modules often reject ZET, EMC and JCB vendor codes.  In those cases we recommend using Varta so the control module will accept the new value.
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[[Category:Subsystems]]
 
[[Category:Subsystems]]

Revision as of 16:14, 1 October 2021


A large majority of modern VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda vehicles require the configuration of replacement batteries. The diagnostic steps vary depending on the actual vehicle configuration.

Prerequisites:

  • New VW/Audi Battery Installed
    • Aftermarket batteries may NOT have a valid Part Number, Vendor code or Serial number. Ross-Tech cannot offer assistance if the necessary information is missing.
  • Key On, Engine OFF


61-Battery Regulation using CAN

This procedure applies to battery replacement in vehicles using a separate battery management control module.

Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
  Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E    HW: 4F0 915 181 A
  Component: ENERGIEMANAGER  H12 0490  

  Subsystem 1 - Part No: 000 915 105 C
  Component: von VA0  2502160103       
  Coding: 303030393135313035432056413032353032313630313033
  Shop #: WSC 54332 321 22222

Coding

[Select]
[61 - Battery Regulation]
[Coding - 07]
Use the pull down menu to select the battery (slave) listed as #1.
[Battery Coding]

  • Enter the new Battery Part Number (10 or 11 digits).
  • Enter the new Battery Serial Number (10 digits).
  • Select the new Battery Vendor.

[OK]
[Do it!]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

Your new Battery should now be coded and the Battery Control Module should be aware of the new Battery.

Special Notes

  • Some vehicles like Audi R8 along with some rest-of-world models with Stop-Start, can have a 61 that is really a virtual module in the 19-CAN Gateway. In these cases, the new battery information is entered in 61-Battery Regulation then Adaptation Channel 004.

19-CAN Gateway using CAN

This procedure applies to battery replacement in vehicles using a battery management control module that is a slave/subsystem of the CAN Gateway.

Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
  Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 Q    HW: 8T0 907 468 L
  Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H10 0095  

  Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 B    HW: 8K0 915 181 B
  Component: J367-BDM  H04 0150 

Long Adaptation

Installation of a new battery requires the use of the [Long Adaptation-0A] function under 19-CAN-Gateway control module. Follow the on-screen instructions to enter the Part Number, Vendor, and Serial Number all as one long new value.

[Select]
[19 - CAN-Gateway]
[Long Adaptation-0A]
Channel 004
[Read]
VCDS will populate instructions in the form of a pop-up balloon with the formatting. For example:

Format: NNNNNNNNNNN XXX ZZZZZZZZZZ

N = Battery Part Number (11 Digits)
X = Battery Vendor (3 Digits)
Z = Battery Serial Number (10 Digits)

[Add to Log] Saving the original value to a log is strongly recommended.
Type the New Battery details into the New value field.

  • Note, the New value must be 26 (alpha numeric) total characters including the spaces! If in doubt check the saved log for the original battery formatting details.

[Test]
[Save]
Providing the value was accepted by the controller the new battery coding is complete.
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

Special Notes

  • Measuring Block groups 017, 018, 019 and 020 should show Battery information.
  • Registered users encountering difficulty can contact us via email -or- join and post in our forum. Please include the Auto-Scan, Saved Adaptation Channel 004 Log prior to modifications, the part number, serial number and vendor code located on the original battery and the details located on the brand new battery in addition to the error message details.

tinyurl.com/pzgolq7


19-CAN Gateway using (UDS/ODX)

This procedure applies to battery replacement in vehicles using a battery management control module that is a slave/subsystem of the CAN Gateway.

Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
  Part No SW: 4G0 907 468 E    HW: 4G0 907 468 A
  Component: J533--Gateway H08 0213  
  ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewUDS 001025

  Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
  Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8X0 915 181     HW: 8X0 915 181 
  Component: J367-BDM  H07 0140 

Adaptation

Installation of a new battery requires the use of the [Adaptation-10] function under 19-CAN-Gateway control module. Use the drop-down menus to enter the Part Number, Vendor, and Serial Number information located on the new battery .

[Select]
[19 - CAN-Gateway]
[Adaptation - 10]

  • Battery adaptation - Size (this may be something like IDE03256-MAS04490 Battery adaptation - Size)
    • Select the battery Ah rating from the drop-down menu followed by [Do It!] and confirm [Yes]
  • Battery adaptation - Manufacturer (this may be something like IDE03256-MAS03159 Battery adaptation - Manufacturer)
    • Select the battery manufacturer from the drop-down menu followed by [Do It!] and confirm [Yes]
  • Battery adaptation - Serial number (this may be something like IDE03256-IDE00010 Battery adaptation - Serial number)
    • Type the serial number code from the replacement battery followed by [Do It!] and confirm [Yes]

Providing the value was accepted by the controller the new battery coding is complete.
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


Example Picture

Note: The 10 digit serial number may be preceded by the Battery Vendor Code, for instance VA0. See examples below:

Click on thumbnail image to enlarge.
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If the code is VA0310314E04G then drop the VA0 and just enter 310314E04G as the Serial Number.


Video Link

Wikibatterycoding.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJAScg6JrYI

Notes

  • Users encountering difficulty with the data shown on the battery sticker may want to:
    • Consider scanning the QR code with a smart phone app.
    • Refer to this B8 A4 Battery Replacement - Coding thread which discusses labels in some detail.
    • We have seen some cases where (contrary to established norms) some Varta batteries have VAO (letter O) instead of VA0 (number 0). If you encounter a problem with Coding one of these, please try substituting the letter for the number or vice versa.
    • Based on feedback MLB based CAN Gateway modules often reject ZET, EMC and JCB vendor codes. In those cases we recommend using Varta so the control module will accept the new value.