VW TPMS Systems without Wheel Position Recognition - Revision history

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Dana at 16:23, 25 June 2012

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	** [[VW Golf/Golf Plus (5K/52) \| VW Jetta (1K/AJ)]] 2010 only		** [[VW Golf/Golf Plus (5K/52) \| VW Jetta (1K/AJ)]] 2010 only
	** [[VW Eos (1F)\|Eos (1F)]] ''2007+''		** [[VW Eos (1F)\|Eos (1F)]] ''2007+''
			** [[VW Tiguan (5N)\|Tiguan (5N)]] ''2009+''
	** [[VW Passat (3C)\|Passat (3C)]] ''2006+''		** [[VW Passat (3C)\|Passat (3C)]] ''2006+''
	** ~~<font color=gray>~~Passat ~~Coupe~~ (35)~~</font>~~ ''2009+''		** [[VW Passat CC (35) \| Passat CC (35)]] ''2009+''
	** ~~[[VW Tiguan (5N)\|Tiguan (5N)]]~~ ''~~2009+~~''		*** ''Note, The 2012 and newer CC may use a 3AA series TPMS module which is located in the rear of the vehicle and uses 433 MHZ sensors, but the basic operation is the same.''


			See the [[Diagnostic Procedures]] section specific to each model to check if detailed information can be found, specifically for those models like the VW Touareg or Audi A8 that use position recognition. If information is not available in the Ross-Tech Wiki refer to the VCDS Label file -or- the [[Official Factory Repair Information]].

	~~''See the section specific to each model to check if detailed information can be found, specifically for those models like the VW Touareg or Audi A8 that use position recognition.''~~

	''Some of the 2011 + NAR (North American Region) Golf platform vehicles have switched to the Indirect TPMS system. Those vehicles use the ABS [[VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)\|Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)]] system and Address [65] - Tire Pressure Monitoring is NOT used. This procedure does Not apply and the vehicle is equipped with a reset button, the Owner's manual and Labels on the chassis will include vehicle specific instructions for the learning drive and reset.''		''Some of the 2011 + NAR (North American Region) Golf platform vehicles have switched to the Indirect TPMS system. Those vehicles use the ABS [[VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)\|Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)]] system and Address [65] - Tire Pressure Monitoring is NOT used. This procedure does Not apply and the vehicle is equipped with a reset button, the Owner's manual and Labels on the chassis will include vehicle specific instructions for the learning drive and reset.''

Dana at 18:43, 16 September 2011

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	*By design, the TPMS system will not alert the driver for an overinflated tire, only under-inflation conditions will trigger a fault lamp!		*By design, the TPMS system will not alert the driver for an overinflated tire, only under-inflation conditions will trigger a fault lamp!
	*TPMS Battery Life is estimated by the control module and may not display information in the measuring block groups until the vehicle is driven.		*TPMS Battery Life is estimated by the control module and may not display information in the measuring block groups until the vehicle is driven.

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Dana at 03:34, 18 August 2011

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	'''This Tech Tip is intended to cover VW models that use the TPMS system Without Wheel Position Recognition.'''		'''This Tech Tip is intended to cover VW models that use the TPMS system Without Wheel Position Recognition.'''

	''~~See the section specific to each model~~ to ~~check if detailed information can be found, specifically for those models like~~ the ~~VW Touareg or Audi A8 that use~~ position recognition.''		These vehicles use the Direct TPMS system with '''Address [65] - [[VW Golf (1K) Tire Pressure Monitoring\|Tire Pressure Monitoring]]''' control module. The Comfort System control module antenna is used to receive the signals from 4 wheel mounted TPMS sensors. For this reason wheel position recognition is not possible.

	* '''This system is commonly found in the US spec:		* '''This system is commonly found in the US spec:
	** [[VW Golf/Jetta/Bora (1K/5M)\|Golf, GTI, Rabbit, Jetta, Jetta Sportwagen (1K/5M) ]] ''2005+''		** [[VW Golf/Jetta/Bora (1K/5M)\|Golf, GTI, Rabbit, Jetta, Jetta Sportwagen (1K/5M) ]] ''2005+''
	** [[VW Golf/Golf Plus (5K/52) \| VW Golf/Golf Plus (5K/52/AJ)]] 2010+		** [[VW Golf/Golf Plus (5K/52) \| W Golf/Golf Plus/Jetta Wagon (JSW)/Golf Variant (5K/52/AJ) ]] 2010
	** [[VW Golf/Golf Plus (5K/52) \| VW Jetta (1K/AJ)]] 2010 only		** [[VW Golf/Golf Plus (5K/52) \| VW Jetta (1K/AJ)]] 2010 only
	** [[VW Eos (1F)\|Eos (1F)]] ''2007+''		** [[VW Eos (1F)\|Eos (1F)]] ''2007+''
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	~~These vehicles~~ use ~~the~~''' ~~Address [65] -~~ [[VW Golf (1K) ~~Tire Pressure Monitoring~~\|Tire Pressure Monitoring~~]]''' control module. The Comfort System control module antenna~~ is used ~~to receive~~ the ~~signals from 4 wheel mounted TPMS sensors. For this reason wheel position recognition~~ is ~~not possible~~.		''See the section specific to each model to check if detailed information can be found, specifically for those models like the VW Touareg or Audi A8 that use position recognition.''

			''Some of the 2011 + NAR (North American Region) Golf platform vehicles have switched to the Indirect TPMS system. Those vehicles use the ABS [[VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)\|Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)]] system and Address [65] - Tire Pressure Monitoring is NOT used. This procedure does Not apply and the vehicle is equipped with a reset button, the Owner's manual and Labels on the chassis will include vehicle specific instructions for the learning drive and reset.''

Dana at 16:31, 8 July 2011

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	* When replacing a sensor it is generally useful to take note of the new ID, printed on the body of the part, prior to the tire being mounted on the wheel.		* When replacing a sensor it is generally useful to take note of the new ID, printed on the body of the part, prior to the tire being mounted on the wheel.
	*By design, the TPMS system will not alert the driver for an overinflated tire, only under-inflation conditions will trigger a fault lamp!		*By design, the TPMS system will not alert the driver for an overinflated tire, only under-inflation conditions will trigger a fault lamp!
			*TPMS Battery Life is estimated by the control module and may not display information in the measuring block groups until the vehicle is driven.

Dana at 04:10, 14 March 2011

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	* '''This system is commonly found in the US spec:		* '''This system is commonly found in the US spec:
	** [[VW Golf/Jetta/Bora (1K/5M)\|Golf, GTI, Rabbit, Jetta, Jetta Sportwagen (1K/5M~~/AJ~~) ]] ''2005+''		** [[VW Golf/Jetta/Bora (1K/5M)\|Golf, GTI, Rabbit, Jetta, Jetta Sportwagen (1K/5M) ]] ''2005+''
			** [[VW Golf/Golf Plus (5K/52) \| VW Golf/Golf Plus (5K/52/AJ)]] 2010+
			** [[VW Golf/Golf Plus (5K/52) \| VW Jetta (1K/AJ)]] 2010 only
	** [[VW Eos (1F)\|Eos (1F)]] ''2007+''		** [[VW Eos (1F)\|Eos (1F)]] ''2007+''
	** [[VW Passat (3C)\|Passat (3C)]] ''2006+''		** [[VW Passat (3C)\|Passat (3C)]] ''2006+''
	** <font color=gray>Passat Coupe (35)</font> ''2009+''		** <font color=gray>Passat Coupe (35)</font> ''2009+''
	** [[VW Tiguan (5N)\|Tiguan (5N)]] ''~~2007~~+''		** [[VW Tiguan (5N)\|Tiguan (5N)]] ''2009+''

Dana at 14:04, 3 February 2011

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	'''This Tech Tip is intended to cover VW models that use the TPMS system Without Wheel Position Recognition.'''		'''This Tech Tip is intended to cover VW models that use the TPMS system Without Wheel Position Recognition.'''

			''See the section specific to each model to check if detailed information can be found, specifically for those models like the VW Touareg or Audi A8 that use position recognition.''

	* '''This system is commonly found in the US spec:		* '''This system is commonly found in the US spec:

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'''This Tech Tip is intended to cover VW models that use the TPMS system Without Wheel Position Recognition.'''

* '''This system is commonly found in the US spec:
** [[VW Golf/Jetta/Bora (1K/5M)|Golf, GTI, Rabbit, Jetta, Jetta Sportwagen (1K/5M/AJ) ]] ''2005+''
** [[VW Eos (1F)|Eos (1F)]] ''2007+''
** [[VW Passat (3C)|Passat (3C)]] ''2006+''
** <font color=gray>Passat Coupe (35)</font> ''2009+''
** [[VW Tiguan (5N)|Tiguan (5N)]] ''2007+''

These vehicles use the''' Address [65] - [[VW Golf (1K) Tire Pressure Monitoring|Tire Pressure Monitoring]]''' control module. The Comfort System control module antenna is used to receive the signals from 4 wheel mounted TPMS sensors. For this reason wheel position recognition is not possible.

==== Special Tools ====
* VCDS (VAG-COM Diagnostic System)
* Battery Charger
* Tire Psi Gauge
* Air Compressor

==== Prerequisites ====
* Check the actual tire pressures. If a leak is found correct it first !
* When checking the tire pressure verify that metal valve stems are present. Rubber valve stems are a good indication that TPMS sensors are Not installed.

==== Workshop Procedure with VCDS ====
* Select control module address '''[65-Tire Pressure]''' and check the '''[02-Fault Codes]'''. Leave the key on.
** If no fault codes are stored and the TPMS light is On, the solution may involve correcting the low tire Psi. Confirm this by taking the vehicle for a short test drive or performing the wake-up procedure and the light should go out.
** If faults are stored, further diagnosis is necessary

==== The Wake-Up Procedure ====
* With the Key On, rapidly deflate all 4 tires, one at a time, by approximately 10 to 12 Psi. This is critical because the sensors will awaken when a rapid Psi loss is detected.
''Alternatively, a hand held TPMS tool can be used to wake the sensors without letting air out of the tires.''

Note: It may take between 15 seconds and 2 minutes for the data to be transmitted to the module.
* Check '''[08-Measuring Blocks]'''. The relevant sensor readings are generally:
** MB's 001, 004, 007, and 010, should show the Wheel Specific data including '''Actual''' and '''Specified''' readings.
** MB 016 can be very useful since it contains the data from the last sensor to transmit a signal.
** MB 025 will show which wheel set is enabled. Wheel set 1 is default. If it’s on wheel set 2, [[VW_Golf_(1K)_Tire_Pressure_Monitoring#Adaptation|Adaptation values]] may need altered.

* Move on to each wheel to verify the readings.
* Correct all tire Psi to the specified level for the vehicle. If one or more wheels are not showing an '''Actual''' reading it will be necessary to determine which sensor is a fault
** If a sensor is suspected as faulty it would be advised to log a Good wheel and the Suspect wheel during a test drive. This will confirm that no reading is shown while driving when centrifugal acceleration and vehicle speed are present.

==== Matching a New Sensor ====
If a new sensor was installed it must be matched to the module.

* Turn the Key on with a battery charger connected.
* Awaken all sensors as previously described immediately followed by correcting the tire Psi.
* Leave the Key On for an additional 20 minutes and do not move the vehicle. This will allow the module to learn the ID from the new sensor.
* After the learning procedure has been performed, take the vehicle for a test drive. The length of the drive may vary depending on the vehicle but 5 to 8 minutes is typically sufficient.

==== Special Notes ====

*Depending on ambient temperatures, a Psi loss greater than 2 Psi can cause a warning lamp to illuminate without storing fault codes.
*Always refer to the tire Psi shown in the Driver's door label for the specifications for each vehicle.
*The TPMS module will not display Actual Psi data after the key has been cycled. The wake up procedure or a test drive will need to be repeated after a key cycle.
*An inactive wheel sensor will not transmit a signal to the module.
* When replacing a sensor it is generally useful to take note of the new ID, printed on the body of the part, prior to the tire being mounted on the wheel.
*By design, the TPMS system will not alert the driver for an overinflated tire, only under-inflation conditions will trigger a fault lamp!

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	''Some of the 2011 + NAR (North American Region) Golf platform vehicles have switched to the Indirect TPMS system. Those vehicles use the ABS [[VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)\|Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)]] system and Address [65] - Tire Pressure Monitoring is NOT used. This procedure does Not apply and ~~the vehicle is~~ equipped with a reset button~~, the~~ Owner's manual and Labels on the chassis will include vehicle specific instructions for the learning drive and reset.''		''Some of the 2011 + NAR (North American Region) Golf platform vehicles have switched to the Indirect TPMS system. Those vehicles use the ABS [[VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)\|Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)]] system and Address [65]-Tire Pressure Monitoring is NOT used. This procedure does Not apply to those vehicles and they should be equipped with a reset button -or- MFA reset option. The Owner's manual and Labels on the chassis will include vehicle specific instructions for the learning drive and reset.''


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	==== Workshop Procedure with VCDS ====		==== Workshop Procedure with VCDS ====
	* Select control module address '''[65-Tire Pressure]''' and check the '''[02-Fault Codes]'''. Leave the key on.		* Select control module address '''[65-Tire Pressure]''' and check the '''[02-Fault Codes]'''. Leave the key on.
	** If no fault codes are stored and the TPMS light is On, the solution may involve correcting the low tire ~~Psi~~. Confirm this by taking the vehicle for a short test drive or performing the wake-up procedure and the light should go out.		** If no fault codes are stored and the TPMS light is On, the solution may involve correcting the low tire pressure. Confirm this by taking the vehicle for a short test drive or performing the wake-up procedure and the light should go out.
	** If faults are stored, further diagnosis is necessary		** If faults are stored, further diagnosis is necessary


	==== The Wake-Up Procedure ====		==== The Wake-Up Procedure ====
	* With the Key On, rapidly deflate all 4 tires, one at a time, by approximately 10 to 12 ~~Psi~~. This is critical because the sensors will ~~awaken~~ when a rapid ~~Psi~~ loss is detected.		* With the Key On, rapidly deflate all 4 tires, one at a time, by approximately 10 to 12 PSI. This is critical because the sensors will wake up when a rapid pressure loss is detected.
	''Alternatively, a hand held TPMS tool can be used to wake the sensors without letting air out of the tires.''		''Alternatively, a hand held TPMS tool can be used to wake the sensors without letting air out of the tires.''

	Note: It may take between 15 seconds and 2 minutes for the data to be transmitted to the module.		Note: It may take between 15 seconds and 2 minutes for the data to be transmitted to the module.
	* Check '''[08-Measuring Blocks]'''. The relevant sensor readings are generally:		* Check '''[08-Measuring Blocks]'''. The relevant sensor readings are generally:
	** MB's 001, 004, 007, and 010, should show the Wheel Specific data including '''Actual''' and '''Specified''' readings.		** MB's 001, 004, 007, and 010, should show the Wheel Specific data including Temperature, '''Actual''' and '''Specified''' tire pressure readings.
	** MB 016 ~~can~~ be very useful ~~since~~ it contains ~~the~~ data from the last sensor to transmit a signal.		** MB 016 may be very useful because it contains data from the last sensor to transmit a signal.
	** MB 025 will show which wheel set is enabled. Wheel set 1 is default. If it’s on wheel set 2, [[VW_Golf_(1K)_Tire_Pressure_Monitoring#Adaptation\|Adaptation values]] may need altered.		** MB 025 will show which wheel set is enabled. Wheel set 1 is default. If it’s on wheel set 2, [[VW_Golf_(1K)_Tire_Pressure_Monitoring#Adaptation\|Adaptation values]] may need altered.

	* Move on to each wheel to verify the readings.		* Move on to each wheel to verify the readings.
	* Correct all tire ~~Psi~~ to the specified level for the vehicle. If one or more wheels are not showing an '''Actual''' reading it will be necessary to determine which sensor is a fault		* Correct all tire pressures to the specified level for the vehicle. If one or more wheels are not showing an '''Actual''' reading it will be necessary to determine which sensor is a fault
	** If a sensor is suspected as faulty it would be advised to log a Good wheel and the Suspect wheel during a test drive. This will confirm that no reading is shown while driving when centrifugal acceleration and vehicle speed are present.		** If a sensor is suspected as faulty it would be advised to log a Good wheel and the Suspect wheel during a test drive. This will confirm that no reading is shown while driving when centrifugal acceleration and vehicle speed are present.

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	* Turn the Key on with a battery charger connected.		* Turn the Key on with a battery charger connected.
	* ~~Awaken~~ all sensors as previously described immediately followed by correcting the tire ~~Psi~~.		* Wake up all sensors as previously described immediately followed by correcting the tire pressure.
	* Leave the Key On for an additional 20 minutes and do not move the vehicle. This will allow the module to learn the ID from the new sensor.		* Leave the Key On for an additional 20 minutes and do not move the vehicle. This will allow the module to learn the ID from the new sensor.
	* After the learning procedure has been performed, take the vehicle for a test drive. The length of the drive may vary depending on the vehicle but 5 to 8 minutes is typically sufficient.		* After the learning procedure has been performed, take the vehicle for a test drive. The length of the drive may vary depending on the vehicle but 5 to 8 minutes is typically sufficient.
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	==== Special Notes ====		==== Special Notes ====

	*Depending on ambient temperatures, a ~~Psi~~ loss greater than 2 ~~Psi~~ can cause a warning lamp to illuminate without storing fault codes.		*Depending on ambient temperatures, a pressure loss greater than 2 PSI can cause a warning lamp to illuminate without storing fault codes.
	*Always refer to the tire ~~Psi~~ shown in the Driver's door label for the specifications for each vehicle.		*Always refer to the tire pressure shown in the Driver's door label for the specifications for each vehicle.
	*The TPMS module will not display Actual ~~Psi~~ data after the key has been cycled. The wake up procedure or a test drive will need to be repeated after a key cycle.		*The TPMS module will not display Actual pressure data after the key has been cycled. The wake up procedure or a test drive will need to be repeated after a key cycle.
	*An inactive wheel sensor will not transmit a signal to the module.		*An inactive wheel sensor will not transmit a signal to the module.
	* When replacing a sensor it is generally useful to take note of the new ID, printed on the body of the part, prior to the tire being mounted on the wheel.		* When replacing a sensor it is generally useful to take note of the new ID, printed on the body of the part, prior to the tire being mounted on the wheel.
	*By design, the TPMS system will not alert the driver for an overinflated tire, only under-inflation conditions will trigger a fault lamp!		*By design, the TPMS system will not alert the driver for an overinflated tire, only under-inflation conditions will trigger a fault lamp!
	*TPMS Battery Life is estimated by the control module and may not display information in the measuring block groups until the vehicle is driven.		*TPMS Battery Life is estimated by the control module and may not display information in the measuring block groups until the vehicle is driven. MB's 002, 005, 008, and 011 should show the estimated battery life when the sensor in question is communicating properly.

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