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== Obsolete Battery Part Numbers ==
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A battery part number may become obsolete and replaced with a new part number that the control module does not support.  If you run into this, we suggest to try an obsolete part number that matches the Ah rating of the replacement battery.
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  51 Ah = 000915105BB  000915105DC  8K0915105J
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  59 Ah = 000915105EB  1S0915105A
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  60 Ah = 000915105DD  4F0915105    8K0915105G
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  61 Ah = 000915105AD  000915105DE  8K0915105H
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  68 Ah = 000915105CC  7L0915105
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  69 Ah = 000915105EC  6R0915105B
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  70 Ah = 000915105DF  4F0915105A    8K0915105C
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  72 Ah = 000915105AF  000915105DG  8K0915105B
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  75 Ah = 000915105CD  3D0915105H
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  79 Ah = 000915105ED  7N0915105B
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  80 Ah = 000915105AG  000915105DH  4F0915105B  4FD915105    8K0915105D  8KD915105
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  92 Ah = 000915105CE  4F0915105E    5GM915105T  8K0915105K
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  95 Ah = 000915105AH  000915105DK  4F0915105C  4F0915105C
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105 Ah = 000915105CF  4L0915105    4L0915105
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110 Ah = 000915105DL  000915105AK  4F0915105D  8K0915105F  8KD915105A
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115 Ah = 000915105DM  4H0915105
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== 61-Battery Regulation using CAN ==
 
== 61-Battery Regulation using CAN ==
 
This procedure applies to battery replacement in vehicles using a separate battery management control module.
 
This procedure applies to battery replacement in vehicles using a separate battery management control module.

Revision as of 15:20, 19 February 2025


A large majority of modern VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda vehicles require the configuration of replacement batteries. The diagnostic steps vary depending on the actual vehicle configuration.

Prerequisites:

  • New VW/Audi Battery Installed
    • Aftermarket batteries may NOT have a valid Part Number, Vendor code or Serial number. Ross-Tech cannot offer assistance if the necessary information is missing.
  • Key On, Engine OFF


Obsolete Battery Part Numbers

A battery part number may become obsolete and replaced with a new part number that the control module does not support. If you run into this, we suggest to try an obsolete part number that matches the Ah rating of the replacement battery.

 51 Ah = 000915105BB   000915105DC   8K0915105J
 59 Ah = 000915105EB   1S0915105A
 60 Ah = 000915105DD   4F0915105     8K0915105G
 61 Ah = 000915105AD   000915105DE   8K0915105H
 68 Ah = 000915105CC   7L0915105
 69 Ah = 000915105EC   6R0915105B
 70 Ah = 000915105DF   4F0915105A    8K0915105C
 72 Ah = 000915105AF   000915105DG   8K0915105B
 75 Ah = 000915105CD   3D0915105H
 79 Ah = 000915105ED   7N0915105B
 80 Ah = 000915105AG   000915105DH   4F0915105B   4FD915105    8K0915105D   8KD915105
 92 Ah = 000915105CE   4F0915105E    5GM915105T   8K0915105K
 95 Ah = 000915105AH   000915105DK   4F0915105C   4F0915105C
105 Ah = 000915105CF   4L0915105     4L0915105
110 Ah = 000915105DL   000915105AK   4F0915105D   8K0915105F   8KD915105A
115 Ah = 000915105DM   4H0915105


61-Battery Regulation using CAN

This procedure applies to battery replacement in vehicles using a separate battery management control module.

Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
  Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E    HW: 4F0 915 181 A
  Component: ENERGIEMANAGER  H12 0490  

  Subsystem 1 - Part No: 000 915 105 C
  Component: von VA0  2502160103       
  Coding: 303030393135313035432056413032353032313630313033
  Shop #: WSC 54332 321 22222

Coding

[Select]
[61 - Battery Regulation]
[Coding - 07]
Use the pull down menu to select the battery (slave) listed as #1.
[Battery Coding]

  • Enter the new Battery Part Number (10 or 11 digits).
  • Enter the new Battery Serial Number (10 digits).
  • Select the new Battery Vendor.

[OK]
[Do it!]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

Your new Battery should now be coded and the Battery Control Module should be aware of the new Battery.

Special Notes

  • Some vehicles like Audi R8 along with some rest-of-world models with Stop-Start, can have a 61 that is really a virtual module in the 19-CAN Gateway. In these cases, the new battery information is entered in 61-Battery Regulation then Adaptation Channel 004.

19-CAN Gateway using CAN

This procedure applies to battery replacement in vehicles using a battery management control module that is a slave/subsystem of the CAN Gateway.

Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
  Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 Q    HW: 8T0 907 468 L
  Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H10 0095  

  Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 B    HW: 8K0 915 181 B
  Component: J367-BDM  H04 0150 

Long Adaptation

Installation of a new battery requires the use of the [Long Adaptation-0A] function under 19-CAN-Gateway control module. Follow the on-screen instructions to enter the Part Number, Vendor, and Serial Number all as one long new value.

[Select]
[19 - CAN-Gateway]
[Long Adaptation-0A]
Channel 004
[Read]
VCDS will populate instructions in the form of a pop-up balloon with the formatting. For example:

Format: NNNNNNNNNNN XXX ZZZZZZZZZZ

N = Battery Part Number (11 Digits)
X = Battery Vendor (3 Digits)
Z = Battery Serial Number (10 Digits)

[Add to Log] Saving the original value to a log is strongly recommended.
Type the New Battery details into the New value field.

  • Note, the New value must be 26 (alpha numeric) total characters including the spaces! If in doubt check the saved log for the original battery formatting details.

[Test]
[Save]
Providing the value was accepted by the controller the new battery coding is complete.
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

Special Notes

  • Measuring Block groups 017, 018, 019 and 020 should show Battery information.
  • Registered users encountering difficulty can contact us via email -or- join and post in our forum. Please include the Auto-Scan, Saved Adaptation Channel 004 Log prior to modifications, the part number, serial number and vendor code located on the original battery and the details located on the brand new battery in addition to the error message details.

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19-CAN Gateway using (UDS/ODX)

This procedure applies to battery replacement in vehicles using a battery management control module that is a slave/subsystem of the CAN Gateway.

Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
  Part No SW: 4G0 907 468 E    HW: 4G0 907 468 A
  Component: J533--Gateway H08 0213  
  ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewUDS 001025

  Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
  Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8X0 915 181     HW: 8X0 915 181 
  Component: J367-BDM  H07 0140 

Adaptation

Installation of a new battery requires the use of the [Adaptation-10] function under 19-CAN-Gateway control module. Use the drop-down menus to enter the Part Number, Vendor, and Serial Number information located on the new battery .

[Select]
[19 - CAN-Gateway]
[Adaptation - 10]

  • Battery adaptation - Size
  • This may be something like IDE03256-MAS04490 Battery adaptation - Size or IDE03256-MAS06105 Battery adaptation-Rated battery capacity
    • Select the battery Ah rating from the drop-down menu followed by [Do It!] and confirm [Yes]
  • Battery adaptation - Manufacturer
    • This may be something like IDE03256-MAS03159 Battery adaptation - Manufacturer or IDE03256-MAS06107 Battery adaptation-Battery manufacturer
      • Select the battery manufacturer from the drop-down menu followed by [Do It!] and confirm [Yes]
  • Battery adaptation - Serial number
    • This may be something like IDE03256-IDE00010 Battery adaptation - Serial number or IDE03256-MAS06108 Battery adaptation-Battery Serial Number
      • Type the serial number code from the replacement battery followed by [Do It!] and confirm [Yes]
  • If the Battery Type is modified the Battery technology channel should be checked. If the replacement battery is the same type modifications to this channel are NOT necessary.
    • This may be something like IDE03256-MAS06106 Battery adaptation-Battery technology
      • Factory installed AGM often use Fleece
      • Factory installed Enhanced Flooded Batteries use EFB
      • Factory installed Sealed Lead Acid (SLA) use Wet

Providing the values were accepted by the controller the new battery coding is complete.
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


Example Picture

Note: The 10 digit serial number may be preceded by the Battery Vendor Code, for instance VA0. See examples below:

Click on thumbnail image to enlarge.
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If the code is VA0310314E04G then drop the VA0 and just enter 310314E04G as the Serial Number.


Video Link

Wikibatterycoding.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJAScg6JrYI

Notes

  • Users encountering difficulty with the data shown on the battery sticker may want to:
    • Consider scanning the QR code with a smart phone app.
    • Refer to this B8 A4 Battery Replacement - Coding thread which discusses labels in some detail.
    • We have seen some cases where (contrary to established norms) some Varta batteries have VAO (letter O) instead of VA0 (number 0). If you encounter a problem with Coding one of these, please try substituting the letter for the number or vice versa.
    • Based on feedback MLB based CAN Gateway modules often reject ZET, EMC and JCB vendor codes. In those cases we recommend using Varta so the control module will accept the new value.