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'''This procedure details how to change the Engine Control Unit (ECU) on VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda vehicles with Immobilizer III.'''
 
'''This procedure details how to change the Engine Control Unit (ECU) on VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda vehicles with Immobilizer III.'''
  
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== Determining VIN (ECU) & IMMO-ID ==
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== Determining VIN & IMMO-ID ==
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=== Engine Control Unit (ECU) ===
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'''[Select]'''<br>
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'''[01 - Engine]'''<br>
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Look at the first "Extra" field. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.<br>
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'''[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]'''<br>
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---OR---
  
 
'''[Select]'''<br>
 
'''[Select]'''<br>
 
'''[01 - Engine]'''<br>
 
'''[01 - Engine]'''<br>
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Look at the first "Extra" field. If you see something like: "Immo-ID VWZ7Z0W0648696"  You've got Immo-2 (or maybe even Immo-1 in earlier non-US models). If you see something like "WVZKB58001H231169 VWZ7Z0W0648696" You've got Immo-3. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.<br>
 
 
'''[Meas. Blocks - 08]'''<br>
 
'''[Meas. Blocks - 08]'''<br>
 
Select Block 081.<br>
 
Select Block 081.<br>
 
'''[Go!]'''<br>
 
'''[Go!]'''<br>
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''The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string is the Immo-ID.''<br>
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''The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.''.<br>
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'''[Done, Go Back]'''<br>
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'''[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]'''<br>
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=== Immobilizer (integrated in Instrument Cluster) ===
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'''[Select]'''<br>
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'''[17 - Instruments]'''<br>
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Look at the first "Extra" field. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.<br>
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'''[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]'''<br>
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---OR---
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'''[Select]'''<br>
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'''[17 - Instruments]'''<br>
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'''[Meas. Blocks - 08]'''<br>
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Select Block 081.<br>
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'''[Go!]'''<br>
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''The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.''.<br>
 
'''[Done, Go Back]'''<br>
 
'''[Done, Go Back]'''<br>
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'''[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]'''<br>
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=== Immobilizer (integrated in separate Immo Box) ===
  
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'''[Select]'''<br>
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'''[25 - Immobilizer]'''<br>
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Look at the first "Extra" field. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.<br>
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'''[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]'''<br>
  
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== Determining VIN (Instrument Cluster) & IMMO-ID/Challenge  ==
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---OR---
  
 
'''[Select]'''<br>
 
'''[Select]'''<br>
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Select Block 081.<br>
 
Select Block 081.<br>
 
'''[Go!]'''<br>
 
'''[Go!]'''<br>
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''The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID (does not apply for all models).''<br>
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''The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.''.<br>
 
'''[Done, Go Back]'''<br>
 
'''[Done, Go Back]'''<br>
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'''[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]'''<br>
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=== Immobilizer (integrated in Kessy) ===
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'''[Select]'''<br>
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'''[05 - Start/Access Authorization]'''<br>
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Look at the first "Extra" field. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.<br>
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'''[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]'''<br>
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---OR---
  
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''On models which do not have an IMMO-ID you need to use the IMMO-Challenge instead.''<br>
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'''[Select]'''<br>
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'''[Advanced ID - 1A]'''<br>
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'''[05 - Start/Access Authorization]'''<br>
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''See the field IMMO-Challenge for the current value, keep in mind that the challenge changes with every ignition cycle!''<br>
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'''[Meas. Blocks - 08]'''<br>
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Select Block 081.<br>
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'''[Go!]'''<br>
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''The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.''.<br>
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'''[Done, Go Back]'''<br>
 
'''[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]'''<br>
 
'''[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]'''<br>
  
  
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== Engine Control Unit (ECU) Swapping (Used ECU) ==
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== Engine Control Unit (ECU) Swapping (USED ECU) ==
  
 
'''<u>Prerequisites:</u>'''<br>
 
'''<u>Prerequisites:</u>'''<br>
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* The NEW (USED) cluster is installed in the car.
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* The REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU is installed in the car.
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* Battery voltage at least 12.0 V.
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* Battery voltage at least 12.5 V.
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* All relevant coding and adaptation values have been transferred from the OLD (ORIGINAL) ECU to the NEW (USED) ECU.
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* All relevant coding and adaptation values have been transferred from the ORIGINAL (OLD) ECU to the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU.
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* Make sure to have BOTH PIN's, from the OLD (ORIGINAL) and the NEW (USED) ECU.
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* Make sure to have BOTH PIN's, from the ORIGINAL (OLD) and the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU.
 
* Make sure to have the Radio Code (for factory radios only).
 
* Make sure to have the Radio Code (for factory radios only).
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* Complete the following steps using one of the original vehicle keys! A new key that is not authorized/matched to the Instrument cluster can prevent successful ECU matching.
  
  
 
'''[Select]'''<br>
 
'''[Select]'''<br>
 
'''[01 - Engine]'''<br>
 
'''[01 - Engine]'''<br>
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'''[Login - 11]'''<br>
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''For the following procedure, '''use the PIN of the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU'''.''<br>
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* '''4-digit PIN'''
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** The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number in the New Value box. ''For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.''
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'''[Do it!]'''<br>
  
  
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'''[Security Access - 16]'''<br>
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'''[Adaptation - 10]'''<br>
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''For the following procedure, '''use the PIN of the NEW (USED)''' instrument cluster.''<br>
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Enter 050 in "Channel Number".<br>
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''There are 2 possibilities how to enter a PIN, choose the one that applies for you.''<br>
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'''[Read]'''<br>
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* '''4/5-digit PIN'''
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''For the following procedure, '''use the PIN of the ORIGINAL (OLD) ECU'''.''<br>
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* '''4-digit PIN'''
 
** The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. ''For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.''
 
** The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. ''For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.''
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* '''7-digit PIN'''
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'''[Test]'''<br>
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** '''[Use 7-digit PIN/SKC]'''
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* The values may change to "32000", this is normal
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** Enter the 7-digit PIN, Date on which the PIN was generated by the dealer, along with the Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number of the dealer that generated the code.
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'''[Save]'''<br>
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** '''[OK]'''
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'''[Done, Go Back]'''<br>
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** VAG-COM will validate the data you have entered and return you to the Login screen, where the Login Code will show as "XXXXX".
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'''[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]'''<br>
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'''[Do it!]'''<br>
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* Switch OFF the ignition and let the car sit for ~1 minute, then switch ON the ignition again.
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* Verify that the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU now shows the VIN and if supported IMMO-ID of the vehicle now.
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* Verify that the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU has the same Coding as the original unit, or code it from scratch using the repair manual or coding chart in VCDS when applicable. <br>
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<br>
  
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== Engine Control Unit (ECU) Swapping (NEW ECU) ==
  
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* ''The instrument cluster now shows '''Immobilizer Adaptation active''', wait until it changes to '''Immobilizer active''' - this may take up to 2 Minutes.''
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'''<u>Prerequisites:</u>'''<br>
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* The '''NEW''' ECU is already installed in the car.
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* Battery voltage at least 12.0 V.
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* All relevant coding and adaptation values have been transferred from the ORIGINAL (OLD) ECU to the REPLACEMENT (NEW) ECU.
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* Make sure to have the PIN of the CAR.
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* Complete the following steps using one of the original vehicle keys! A new key that is not authorized/matched to the Instrument cluster can prevent successful ECU matching.
  
  
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'''[Select]'''<br>
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'''[01 - Engine]'''<br>
 
'''[Adaptation - 10]'''<br>
 
'''[Adaptation - 10]'''<br>
 
Enter 050 in "Channel Number".<br>
 
Enter 050 in "Channel Number".<br>
 
'''[Read]'''<br>
 
'''[Read]'''<br>
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''For the following procedure, '''use the PIN of the OLD (ORIGINAL)''' instrument cluster.''<br>
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''For the following procedure, '''use the PIN of the CAR'''.''<br>
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''There are 2 possibilities how to enter a PIN, choose the one that applies for you.''<br>
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* '''4-digit PIN'''
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* '''4/5-digit PIN'''
 
 
** The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. ''For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.''
 
** The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. ''For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.''
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* '''7-digit PIN'''
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'''[Test]'''<br>
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** '''[Use 7-digit PIN/SKC]'''
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* The values may change to "32000", this is normal
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** Enter the 7-digit PIN, Date on which the PIN was generated by the dealer, along with the Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number of the dealer that generated the code.
 
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** '''[OK]'''
 
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** VAG-COM will validate the data you have entered and return you to the Login screen, where the Login Code will show as "XXXXX".
 
 
'''[Save]'''<br>
 
'''[Save]'''<br>
 
'''[Done, Go Back]'''<br>
 
'''[Done, Go Back]'''<br>
 
'''[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]'''<br>
 
'''[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]'''<br>
  
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* Switch OFF the ignition and let the car sit for ~1 minute, then switch ON the ignition again.
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* Verify that the REPLACEMENT (NEW) ECU now shows the VIN and if supported IMMO-ID of the vehicle now.
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* Verify that the REPLACEMENT (NEW) ECU has the same Coding as the original unit, or code it from scratch using the repair manual or coding chart in VCDS when applicable.
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* Activate Cruise Control if needed on new DBW ECU's
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<br>
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<br>
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=== Activating Cruise Control on a new ECU (DBW) ===
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DBW (''Drive-by-Wire'') Factory fresh ECU's often come with cruise control de-activated.<br>
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'''[Select]'''<br>
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'''[01 - Engine]'''<br>
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'''[Login - 11]'''<br>
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Enter 11463 to activate cruise control<br>
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'''[Do It!]'''<br>
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== Video Link ==
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=== Immobilizer Gen 3 ECM or Instrument Cluster swapping ===
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[[File:Wiki thumb nail.jpg|200px|link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5_51qeEyec]]
  
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* Switch OFF the ignition and let the car sit for ~1 minute, then switch ON the ignition again.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5_51qeEyec
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* Verify that the NEW (USED) ECU now shows the VIN (and if supported IMMO-ID) of the vehicle now.
 
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* The challenge of instrument cluster and ECU never matches, so don't bother checking them.
 

Latest revision as of 15:21, 20 February 2019

This procedure details how to change the Engine Control Unit (ECU) on VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda vehicles with Immobilizer III.

Determining VIN & IMMO-ID

Engine Control Unit (ECU)

[Select]
[01 - Engine]
Look at the first "Extra" field. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

---OR---

[Select]
[01 - Engine]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Select Block 081.
[Go!]
The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID..
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


Immobilizer (integrated in Instrument Cluster)

[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
Look at the first "Extra" field. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

---OR---

[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Select Block 081.
[Go!]
The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID..
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


Immobilizer (integrated in separate Immo Box)

[Select]
[25 - Immobilizer]
Look at the first "Extra" field. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

---OR---

[Select]
[25 - Immobilizer]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Select Block 081.
[Go!]
The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID..
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


Immobilizer (integrated in Kessy)

[Select]
[05 - Start/Access Authorization]
Look at the first "Extra" field. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

---OR---

[Select]
[05 - Start/Access Authorization]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Select Block 081.
[Go!]
The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID..
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


Engine Control Unit (ECU) Swapping (USED ECU)

Prerequisites:

  • The REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU is installed in the car.
  • Battery voltage at least 12.5 V.
  • All relevant coding and adaptation values have been transferred from the ORIGINAL (OLD) ECU to the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU.
  • Make sure to have BOTH PIN's, from the ORIGINAL (OLD) and the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU.
  • Make sure to have the Radio Code (for factory radios only).
  • Complete the following steps using one of the original vehicle keys! A new key that is not authorized/matched to the Instrument cluster can prevent successful ECU matching.


[Select]
[01 - Engine]

[Login - 11]
For the following procedure, use the PIN of the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU.

  • 4-digit PIN
    • The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number in the New Value box. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.

[Do it!]


[Adaptation - 10]
Enter 050 in "Channel Number".
[Read]
For the following procedure, use the PIN of the ORIGINAL (OLD) ECU.

  • 4-digit PIN
    • The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.

[Test]

  • The values may change to "32000", this is normal

[Save]
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


  • Switch OFF the ignition and let the car sit for ~1 minute, then switch ON the ignition again.
  • Verify that the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU now shows the VIN and if supported IMMO-ID of the vehicle now.
  • Verify that the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU has the same Coding as the original unit, or code it from scratch using the repair manual or coding chart in VCDS when applicable.


Engine Control Unit (ECU) Swapping (NEW ECU)

Prerequisites:

  • The NEW ECU is already installed in the car.
  • Battery voltage at least 12.0 V.
  • All relevant coding and adaptation values have been transferred from the ORIGINAL (OLD) ECU to the REPLACEMENT (NEW) ECU.
  • Make sure to have the PIN of the CAR.
  • Complete the following steps using one of the original vehicle keys! A new key that is not authorized/matched to the Instrument cluster can prevent successful ECU matching.


[Select]
[01 - Engine]
[Adaptation - 10]
Enter 050 in "Channel Number".
[Read]
For the following procedure, use the PIN of the CAR.

  • 4-digit PIN
    • The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.

[Test]

  • The values may change to "32000", this is normal

[Save]
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

  • Switch OFF the ignition and let the car sit for ~1 minute, then switch ON the ignition again.
  • Verify that the REPLACEMENT (NEW) ECU now shows the VIN and if supported IMMO-ID of the vehicle now.
  • Verify that the REPLACEMENT (NEW) ECU has the same Coding as the original unit, or code it from scratch using the repair manual or coding chart in VCDS when applicable.
  • Activate Cruise Control if needed on new DBW ECU's



Activating Cruise Control on a new ECU (DBW)

DBW (Drive-by-Wire) Factory fresh ECU's often come with cruise control de-activated.

[Select]
[01 - Engine]
[Login - 11]
Enter 11463 to activate cruise control
[Do It!]


Video Link

Immobilizer Gen 3 ECM or Instrument Cluster swapping

Wiki thumb nail.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5_51qeEyec

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